@eniko Thanks, sorry I wasn't able to see that when I read the thread.

Sorry, I don't have much to contribute- I think because I still don't understand *why* C defines the operators to return 0 or 1, which I guess is the key. (I don't quite grasp clar fon's explanation.)

Thanks for giving us something interesting to think about! I'm getting into doing lower-level stuff progressively, and this is didactic.

@yo the reason C defines logical operators to return 0 or 1 is because they're boolean operations. now, C doesn't have a dedicated boolean type, but even without that wrapper this is still desirable behavior

for example take `(A && B) == (C && D)`

you would expect this to be true if A, B, C, and D are all non-zero. but the equality comparer in C just checks two numbers for equality. so even if they're all non-zero, if you don't coerce to 1 for true, this would return false (or 0) if B and D had different non-zero values

this is why you'll often see `!!x` in javascript, because this coerces a truthy value to a true boolean and a falsey value to a false boolean