@delta @hpk 1) I was part explaining as hpk said they didn't understand. 2) I don't think you need to facilitate thunderbird+gpg users, just that as deltachat is advertised a lot as being based on mail+pgp, it's good to be aware there is a key audience that can get confused by it.

If you tell me something is based on ssh, but I can't do the usual ssh features/flow I'll also be confused if not frustrated. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@wmd @hpk we are not advertising mail+pgp in the app, and also not in the web site or app stores of today. It's true that until April 2024 we emphasized mail+pgp more towards users and that's probably the background you remember and argue from. Today, we use email and openpgp for interoperability, and to benefit from a massive ecosystem of software and established understandings and code. But the goal is that users can stay pretty unaware about these underpinnings.

@delta @hpk can't expect to change the conversation and expect everyone to automatically follow :)

@wmd @hpk luckily, the vast majority of today's users don't have the historical baggage, and quite a few read our posts and docs of the last 20 months where we repetitively try to convey and clarify what we are doing and why :) it's still going to haunt us, obviously :)