@alexhall I have the same problem. If you ever work out a solution let us know.

@alexhall what OS? If Windows try Ctrl insert for copy, shift insert for paste.

@alexhall Have you tried doing a simulated left mouse click?

@mcourcel I haven't. That's worth a try. Thanks.

@alexhall That one works with the cmd ssh, not sure about the other one.

@nsa Windows, but SSH, so the remote host is in charge of most of the keystrokes. I've tried insert combinations before with no luck.

@modulux @alexhall this is very strange. (I'm sighted and not using a screen reader, so I might say stupid things.)

I just tried Windows 11 + cmd.exe (which opens Windows Terminal for me) + ssh.exe; I could paste with shift+insert on a remote session; the hotkeys seem to be handled by Windows Terminal.

Windows Terminal allows changing the paste hotkey, I tried changing it to ctrl+j and it worked too.

@modulux @alexhall Run ssh. System menu, Properties, Options tab, Use Ctrl+Shift+C/V as Copy/Paste. Is that checked?

@tspivey @alexhall It was not checked, now it is, it makes no difference.

@modulux @alexhall What are you doing to paste?

@modulux @tspivey It's been checked for me the whole time. It doesn't seem to help.

@tspivey @alexhall control-v or shift-insert. Neither work.

@tspivey @modulux I've tried ctrl-v, ctrl-shift-v, shift-insert, shift-insert twice, the system menu, and nvda-right bracket to simulate a right click. Only the last two work. The system menu is frustrating to get into reliably, and I was reminded about the right click just today.

@alexhall @modulux Ok, do you have Use legacy console (requires relaunch, affects all consoles) checked? If so, try unchecking it.

@tspivey @alexhall Is there also ways to select and copy?

@modulux @alexhall Try NVDA+F9/F10.

@tspivey @alexhall Excellent, that works as well and I can use the typical cursor movement commands. For some reason I never thought of trying NVDA f9 and f10 because it's uneven in what applications it works.

@modulux @alexhall Try Control+Shift+V.

@tspivey @alexhall ctrl-shift-v does seem to work here.

@tspivey @alexhall And many thanks, by the way.

@modulux @tspivey Hey! When I checked a bit ago, the option to use ctrl-shift-c/v was checked, as it has been for years. I checked again while searching for the legacy console option, and that option had gotten unchecked. I checked it again, and now ctrl-shift-v works, even over SSH. I guess I just had to turn the option off and back on!

@alexhall @modulux @tspivey Oh gooood!!! That was the on/off I was talking of. I'm glad it works now!!!

@alexhall @modulux @tspivey Tyler's the one that showed me that originally a couple years ago! :)

@yo @modulux Terminal may work better. I'm using cmd, because long-running SSH sessions in Termainal eventually freeze Terminal/my screen reader.

@alexhall @modulux (another interesting option is that screen, tmux, and I guess other similar programs can do their own copy and pasting. However, I don't find them comfortable, and I suspect they might suck even more when using with accessibility features.)

@yo @alexhall Tried on win-10. Inst+insert doesn't do anything for me. Tried using the passthrough for NVDA just in case it's capturing and still not.

@modulux @alexhall maybe it's a problem with the copying instead of the pasting? Have you tried copying from a different Windows application like Notepad?

(I'm checking now that with Windows Terminal, you can use ctrl+shift+m to activate select mode. Not really sure how to do selections in Windows Terminal with accessibility features...)

(Again, if I'm saying dumb things because I know little about this, feel free to disregard.)

@alexhall @modulux (Or trying to paste what you copy from Windows Terminal into Notepad, to see if the copying works correctly.)

@yo @alexhall No, definitely there's stuff ont the clipboard, I tried copying it from a different application.

@modulux @yo Same. The text on the clipboard is just plain text. Again, I'm using cmd, not Terminal, because Terminal likes to lock up on me. That's going to make a difference.

@modulux @alexhall dang, that's weird. I'd poke with trying to change the paste shortcut in Windows Terminal, but I have little faith on that.

I'm really puzzled. There's many things about terminal emulation that can cause issues, like backspace not working, but it's been maybe a decade since I've suffered any significant issue. (Except for programs breaking under GNU Screen, of course.)

I'll go install NVDA, I've always wanted to play with it.

@yo @alexhall For another really strange thing, the alt-space to open the menu and maximise with x doesn't work either when ssh is open.

@alexhall @modulux hmmm, well, NVDA under remote desktop is weird.

But what I noticed, with NVDA activated, to paste I have to hold shift, then press ins twice fast enough for paste to work.

But I'm using Windows 11, and running cmd.exe opens a tab in Windows Terminal (with the classic cmd, just using the Windows Terminal user interface). So Windows 10 might be different.

@yo @alexhall Tried pressing ins twice quickly with shift pressed. Something goes through the terminal but it does not paste.

@modulux @yo Same, and I'm on Windows 11. I get the text

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@alexhall @modulux I really don't want to waste your time, but that's interesting.

Does that depend on whether you are in a SSH session or not? Because that does sound like a problem with terminal emulation.

@yo @alexhall Yes, it's specific to ssh and such.

@modulux @alexhall for me, with NVDA, it shift+insert+insert works the same in cmd.exe and within ssh.exe inside cmd.exe.

From what I understand about terminals and SSH, SSH should not make any difference. So it's sounds like this surpasses my knowledge.

I'm following alexhall now and I was already following modulux; if you ever figure it out, I'm supercurious!

(Let me know if I can do anything more, but I think I'm useless right now.)

@alexhall @modulux ah, I saw the solution elsewhere in the thread. Glad it worked out!

@yo @alexhall @modulux In case it might be useful to you.
Try the Console Log add-on.
It has a configurable shortcut specifically for those consoles where pasting doesn't work properly.
It also includes other utilities.
If that's the only feature you need, I can extract it into a simple script for the scratchpad folder.
Here is the latest version of the add-on:
https://github.com/nvda-es/consoleLog/releases/download/1.4/consoleLog-1.4.nvda-addon

@modulux @yo Indeed it doesn't. I wish it did, because at least getting to paste through the edit menu would be faster and more reliable.

@yo @yo @modulux Tools like that are usable, but I've never quite gotten the hang of them. I don't know what it is about them. The most I'll do is background a task, then use fg to open it later. The largest number of background tasks I've ever managed with this method is two.